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lvphaa
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« on: August 28, 2015, 03:54:04 PM »

Let's keep it short guys,

Here is about 8 - 9 confirmed Studies and clinical trials that proved BCAA is no more than a PlaceBo

http://nizarscience.blogspot.com/2015/07/bcaa-power-of-placebo.html

http://nizarscience.blogspot.com/2015/07/bcaa-ugly-scam.html


i know how you feel after reading this, i'm sorry
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2015, 04:25:34 PM »

Nice one.. I have just brought a load so I will see your study and raise you two (within the article) on the power of ignorance and placebo effect Wink

http://www.strengtheory.com/steroids-dosage-and-the-placebo-effect/

Just going to have a refreshing BCAA drink and enjoy my gainzzzz brah
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2015, 04:27:24 PM »

Nice one.. I have just brought a load so I will see your study and raise you two (within the article) on the power of ignorance and placebo effect Wink

http://www.strengtheory.com/steroids-dosage-and-the-placebo-effect/

Just going to have a refreshing BCAA drink and enjoy my gainzzzz brah


These studies are done by doctors who studied more than i lived so i have to believe them. i was thinking same as you no all i take is PROTEIN NOTHING MORE.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2015, 05:40:50 PM »

The main outcome measures you'd probably want to look at for any sort of adaptation study is probably cross sectional area of a muscle and increases in muscle strength. Now you could do this with high tech methods like an MRI or low tech methods like simple anthropometry, with a tape measure and skin folds. After that there are various molecular markers you'd probably want to look at most notably probably the mTOR pathway and perhaps the up or down regulation of various genes.

Now a study is really only ever as good as the question it asks and the methods they employ. If you set up an endurance exercise study with BCAA can you really expect to find increases in  in muscle mass?  For me I'm not convinced there's enough here to really discredit the effect of BCAA. Conversely there's also not enough here to say their effective either, however this is hardly an exhaustive literature search. It seems to me that the author has an agenda and is promoting one side of an argument by cherry picking studies. 

As for placebos and steroids badger, there's undoubtedly an effect. Although it still surprises me when I see journal articles reporting no effect when I think it's pretty clear they work!
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2015, 06:04:56 PM »

It seems to me that the author has an agenda and is promoting one side of an argument by cherry picking studies. 

This was my first thought too.

The last study, quoted from the JISSN, comments on reducing muscle damage. From the very same study, the author notes "...BCAA administered before and following damaging resistance exercise reduces indices of muscle damage and accelerates recovery in resistance-trained males. It seems likely that BCAA provided greater bioavailablity of substrate to improve protein synthesis and thereby the extent of secondary muscle damage associated with strenuous resistance exercise.

So they've quoted a study and stated BCAAs are negative, but the study author suggests BCAAs are beneficial. Neither prove anything either way, but it's a poor example for the article author to pick to say that BCAA are detrimental.
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2015, 06:13:44 AM »

The BCAA DOES activate enzymes responsible for protein synthesis but failed to show effective muscle Mass increase. i came across a study from Texas university where experienced bodybuilders used the BCAA for 3 Weeks with NO Fat free mass increase.

talking about myself, 1 scoop of whey protein contains more than 5 grams of natural BCAA. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2015, 11:33:19 AM »


i know how you feel after reading this...

Nothing more irritating than being told how I feel.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2015, 12:14:26 PM »


i know how you feel after reading this...

Nothing more irritating than being told how I feel.

Only just learning to move forwards with my life after reading this bombshell!
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2016, 05:19:02 PM »

Let's keep it short guys,

Here is about 8 - 9 confirmed Studies and clinical trials that proved BCAA is no more than a PlaceBo

http://nizarscience.blogspot.com/2015/07/bcaa-power-of-placebo.html

http://nizarscience.blogspot.com/2015/07/bcaa-ugly-scam.html


i know how you feel after reading this, i'm sorry

Doesn't surprise me, I've thought this for a long time. Great marketing job thugh...every bodybuilder sees BCAAs as number 1 supp behind protein.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2016, 05:21:38 PM »

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These studies are done by doctors who studied more than i lived so i have to believe them. i was thinking same as you no all i take is PROTEIN NOTHING MORE.

When you find out protein is a placebo too Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2016, 07:15:54 PM »

Let's keep it short guys,

Here is about 8 - 9 confirmed Studies and clinical trials that proved BCAA is no more than a PlaceBo

http://nizarscience.blogspot.com/2015/07/bcaa-power-of-placebo.html

http://nizarscience.blogspot.com/2015/07/bcaa-ugly-scam.html


i know how you feel after reading this, i'm sorry

Doesn't surprise me, I've thought this for a long time. Great marketing job thugh...every bodybuilder sees BCAAs as number 1 supp behind protein.

Do they?

PS Love the name of your website btw, very appropriate for this forum *thumbs up*
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